אל עצמי - פרק 11 - מודל אפרת 2.0

הפעם לקחנו את מודל א.פ.ר.ת (אירוע פרשנות רגש תגובה), ופירקנו אותו לגורמים כדי למצוא בו באגים. עברנו על כל שלב ברמה המדעית: אירוע הוא בסך הכל אותות חשמליים שנוצרים במוח, פרשנות היא העיבוד שלהם והוא שונה מאדם לאדם גם כשהאות זהה, ורגש הוא התפרצות של כימיקלים שלוקח לה חמש שש שניות לדעוך. ומשם הגענו לשאלה שהציקה לנו. אם אי אפשר לשנות את הפרשנות המיידית ואי אפשר להילחם ברגש, איפה בכלל נשאר לנו מקום לזוז.
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אל עצמי, פרק 11
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מידד פריינטא & קרןאור פרנקו

אפשר למצוא אותנו גם ביוטיוב

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SPEAKER_02 1:48

And the auto as Neroa Batsem Mata or Melpo.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Pourquoi vous avez une chambre? Animaskimitach. Animaskimitach and the same. Gamima ou Totakas. Boule, electroda virulang, a parchant. Baramait regish. Anitaleim Bagoufale is a very good. But it's the chemical. How do we have a chemical record? By definition, the show is a very good thing. Aleph, if you had a bit, if you're not going to be able to get regish, if I tick on the mashou, you can see the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Okay. Kimhshovot etiot Azakol Sabamas stress baity and stress baities a little? Yofy. Bdukze. Ken. Nahon, Madre Shishoni Batem, the Behalar Rishonichovim Khemishu kimat, Lloyd Madrasotanoim cactus. Alaknu Berechov Tlack cactus kimat mit Nageshbano. Hulanu Mekrim Behalam a pakazem ilit Nageshim cactus. Ou atada automati ou kiumi ou psisi ou ad kedagitha wow wow bolo nitnagesh ba cactus?

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Kulaman ganona frim le chemicalim shemafilim ou tanuta no ad charate ta sriduce.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Big small micactus him. Ah, and bea. Ah mama, an ako ben vom rim, yesh regish richoni, wisardu tea, u built inishlat, and yegit kan lichuraki at dea misha regisharize kofetslow micoli ta cluti me nemala, yashmatzab she tells Sadere de Vezelos Sababalon? Lo call davar an akunita regioniaze. Avalanih Abalavanu ta ruwa harishoniaze m kaktus sababa zaram noito. Ahaqani kolo yom is to vevet mwa wa is a pak cactus, wa wa khanisonet cactusim wa ni kwa settal cactusim, loida tze regishta la kakat, wo kayami tikola yom al'h en lochla lishtah. Lochola, lochhla le cholo yom lochal deberitra, lochha voithala skate park, lochla kloom.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Ani, ak shav ta kuaba ba erwa yim motoregesh.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

Regesh mi cactus rubainu koshwim sh the legitimi vesavir verelevanti vecola shemot baola, anibava mera t loidet kamazemitavano. Sana veza kalakim shahun rizellina helo tam? Ken. Ki bazafana kumutimat minu, todel fame shoulet andashimbi kanle tipulzu give kaze kamazman bis bazem ba shavwa khon al lichosihadalashiniala devarze vetem. Hm Yetal khapamli sholt mechadavarkaz, kamzman bis bazda al regashotkaele?

SPEAKER_00 11:09

Ken, yatali kamapamim, a filo hashavu.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Yo termik. Ken. Ankhumbazim mal shutha loshut in the cactus shoot, said a cast, uh cactus bamikraze. Losababa. Shelov uton velishanot a mudelazi khath.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Yeshakalashlim?

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Okay, tatu se fet, ka imani d'ho fit a parsanote, katlemaala veta regashot qzatlamat v chua. Ki the safe.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Lama, because, and khadashim ba mouh, messy lot khadashot bamoh, yatsu parsha nou yot khadashot, as anachnu beetzem, nu khal sha notezia, val Basha lava re shoni, ta' la parsha note, anakut sikhim yat sircha machot parsanout khadasha.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Ki apashanout zot hi beetzem, lit'ha, tutsa ali khaim adajom. Nahon Lemudatni sayon, whatever who ye.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

The acted them odd, the tun, a parsha note, it's tutha viti adayom.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Kedel shanote poot, bidiuk Yafe. Kumar le kh'im limod nisayon khadash, at l'hotvehhule, the shambet tivat khadasha, ad az elanu ela lehham tin vila sotalihim. Vagamatapel bahebetanusaf, sha de khafnutsa, vehu amaru no benifrod mize, mahshavot mahshavot zot derh shelanu ba etem lelamedatzmenu, parshanut khadasha. Yef, so kanabrim bahebe shel bonir eta eruan ze, akaktus losalk bihhavana, tergi,ashossi bot mich shelo, stakli atbesed, akaktus kvalopo, akolto, stamut ha pershanut khadesha, he bet m Prashanut khadasha le mat mesaperat alairua, loa Parshanut shela chhaimat's maam, ken? Ken Pershanut per mikre. Ala alairua, bidiuk. Ve devarze, kumashikvaramano? Mhzirutanulometsiut, mr elanu tiri, atnival to mimashu, ya shenivhal the shemarai, tiri? Cactus? Nah? Nahon as then mim shavil. Vikano saf no, she bench to the game changer regish. Okay, as Samu with the can the game changer, bamashurimo, regish mishni. A gav, kmo sh amarti kodem, gamit and session, ali bail micol devarli, pagami koldvar, shizet to kefutano, zhai, ifhari shlotze no ana, gamitzef Charles Shano, Mishanimita Pershanuta subjectivit shelano, how automatit, she to tsar shelha, vea sino ezeu talih, vea nahnu khovimita tsmainu kere tripenu psaim stigalnu yaholo twehulei, mina stamloni bahel mikoctus. As gameta regga shri shoni Betvach lomiadi, elakito tzarih, anahulakalutini holim shano.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Holalipo avhana ben tguva si phizit isardutit cactus le band gova el mula nashima dguva milulit gova machit ve behalar cactus size goof shellia sacadation e lo de kare me should be. Okay. A biologia physiologia is docare t uh shovot barwa physique erwa khavayati tikshoutih interactive in many. Sheim yes, like seviva no safety, as me at the barbicactus.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Begadol ken amanganona z regisha rishonia. Mul elementum sha ta mart the sedutive, the muhashim practim shailimala in barrega.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

And you say physiologi machine gidnata goof and fdel ben macoresh anini yarok that's so mate, the mishu katahoti the kimatit na gashnu, le ben mishua marli ak shav mashu mamash mamash ka'avli shmoa. Kola ta'alih u totalih.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Bevadai Bevadai avalanachnu dimuter. Oh, nachan? Oh, atavaani of the imdel. Nahon Zeb kolatalih utota alih, mevusa salzesh, anachnu yatzanu kan ezhi manipulazia atsmit kedeli atzereta regisha mishiaze bo tofen shahum yatrimi ta regesha rishon, akum sha naimit t'smenu al nekitsuto. Ken. Na kon gema atzimi moto. Avaltahles, the drama manipulative. Nahon, bezrat mach shovod vesipurim.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Ken, zemasha nahno sim.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Yofanul nateltamanganonazi, ale kletovatenu. As atashoel beetem ifsha kumosh amanushha, la spia la manganon shel regish mishni, a imefsha, la spia alamangonon shel reggeshoni, sh ubiqalbama par shanot veloma machovot, asanachuthrimpola akadim ta eru anhonha.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Ani shoela ima knulim shanoti tguva ki ta reggesanoti, a regisoni andanushlita love, aiman khnuim shanote tatguva.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Ani sintha poma bachelha um namantia filga boami de la regis. As kodem call ifsha la voda tguva, veh and sforum to plymf sad na or chemita scheme, be echle shanot etat guva, fizichelano, ayen erch sad notlenul kiasim, cbt shimitasekweze betak od andspore thumim. Sadam?

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Sha bekulam megadolom rim, tispora deser, tenla chemikalim li pogeglifne give.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Bonim tsa, e itna gut khalu fit light na gut alore tzuya. Okay, as ani long bekahme deyeket po bathumim show skimbezan ip shoutyo dach is a kayam ken. Lama ni loligaman deyekat po kya ni low side. A nyo evitla k fovilim tongima fila, ni no tentli kheti chuwot mata ba kheti, lube methoveva nimpo. Abal chuwai kent, sadarim zemashtaru se fsha.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Ve ve attaki lomata, to vet regishani efshalot anni kyahti poimhaum nam shaliki aniumeret lamalo?

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Ani dayak, colo the pal shanut loistanta a regesh e otoveks.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

Okay. Iim jukim nophrimuti ve kopam shanirwa jukim and yumerit abale. Sedam?

SPEAKER_01 20:52

The kofetz it.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Ve kofet. Anya simpo the geshveko kovit ki m metaplimak shivimli and betaki betakidu of phobia zaherat nahon, him juk mafri mvhiluti veze lophobia. Sedar ki phiabia zathombifnatwo. Ken. Besedam. Abal juke standardti lopphobia, ostelilo sababa, regesh vani mecapit chambe hysteria. Lophobia. Ve ani bavo meritlicha, sha lonaganobosanotiha, juko losababa. Kola chaim Jukulos sababa, juk zadan losababa, zemashavardi nom shaniza. Sababa?

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Smod Lonoganuboshnotri.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Yes?

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Yes. Animakshiv?

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Ehot, anime Giale zeshanio meritlicha, if shall, pochodli ba elmi juk Imnach Shovelrega, Shabo, Hajukze, Viloti, oigiloti. Makoresham beetem Boregal ifne, ata lot myoshevimba set, omedba midbahlan athve. Mindfulness Bemidami Suyamet Klumau No Khikut Kikolshe anhnu Yoterbe No Khut Barega Hazze Yotermuda Imlas Vivavhshavot Petiwana Kah Yoterkashe Vataholiv Honotilze Laftiotano Atating Tatatmecha Lomitragesh Vanim de Bertala Muwana Pahotov Shla Itrag Lomitragesh Midwrim Lonival Lomabedeshtonot Lom Kolkoshberoshika Mimalenivalti Nahan Kara Kikol Shanachem Huburim La Regazel Ovela Kanva Shavamut tikra mindfulness Kakatir Shari Shuni Pachot Moshpiale Pachot Kore Man Mekabel Azimut ini Beklalkam Phuta Vaniumerhajzaat Shailadimslamid Basim Kolzman ishala sotli buvil aftia. Me od kes. Me od keschaita eta eta regesha wow wow wow makarakan shawonelmaze. Ketam Muhammad Vrim Khhubarkan Varsav, Kshtam Khubarkan Varsalam T's le mashekure, kolumkolata bimashikureva asteru eta kol Zelohatafutha Ksata Bhakabhsha Votal Mashu. Athan Zelo Shala Futra mimashwa Azzehad Staim Kshatam Khubaram Tsiut, Atalukhbekol, Yikol Likot, Gam Lama, kikshatam khubaram tziut, atyo dehamashekure, the attayo deshemusag, drichut, the odrega e creme macho and it's not me odme ha inanchel liot muhan ki ochni policactus la roche, the drichot, leumatha ani can, hoth salat mango, the anoide? Noida, alode mikremashobodrega, ki Anilo Holodat Mikea? Lodya? Ezekif Mango.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Vemani loyodea, as echzem yatser et slita y holit la give bitsu rayo termita vit.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

Ki atamehubala imata loyodea a velmitoh muchanotazot, le hosre yediya, velocha tasha altala.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Azulaze me ever le muchanote kabala.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

Ken a muchanutazot mibhinatiotovatov shidadeta, as imatabamakomaze muhan, kabala yediah at lomikhapes lishlot beklumvishum devar, at a khelik mimashekore tidash atta atati yesham mimeleh, atati vharichla giv kshetitarehleagiv, zekol kjatelo kholodatas the gamlo holodathtakiv, yesham ezoshin inuchut, velitoh ninohutazot zekilu, echanikdirize, hamuchhanutazot, ykmoizasmihat puchakol, nofel ale cactushenufelecha alharosh or al smihat puchmargisha kerit the gamwa khere azze kzeze, the gamwa khelet. Zekeze, velhen gama regesh shatakove kshata pugeshetawimlumat ksemoflimkalh, shhuv Khwaya kheret, poetamekabelet advarimve pugeshotam, poemoflimalecha shamdrichut, po kabalave muchanot, a kolarbe tomukah, zeloto regesh. Keta muchanla kol, atam atam kabeletakal. As Imatamuhhandve me kabel, echtit baesalav, echtit maumela lav, echtavelav betanot, mauta kafothaju, kuhelkma bait liftneze khodhai mate benzugi kaparalav be betzimer super mefane, kefi, be emta yar, anim mister kelezmaut woch ba noizhami teinuitzima, leno simma koletim loyon dachmishu samta devarazal etz eyze yofi. Vazma gia shalavme odmuha ba Laila, anakomitergenimli shonaku Mr. Klemal tikrata etzba batsimer ve pitom uhu anakhnota khat mirishon shera, the var anak begodel kafajad shel shekoieli lopohot mize, wesh di kafyat bekubedet. Metayel ala tikra shelha tzimmerze, akavish in parava, mefanek, godel kafyad, e khuti kaze. The um mister kell and it fosato on youth, echmo timo tutzan khapesto dead liquid the bancatano tfosoto, velo lifguabu ve kzeze, when ishave cham ni no, ah, we kakhish odhadimoto mi taze for it fosbe Ani kwa you dat sh can Bani oh shabem talila mehat boca. Kilony la dat ye you did for it was manchine can rainus name. Zemasha ni lachlishon and batil polishon gangloyusham, mazemishine. The zemashose varinha loyo de gam hemya gulikan.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Zo stress, zenihhmad, asha inana zilivachnu viknasnu itshavot echanachnulim litergelze, birama yom yomithavot itf.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

As kmo tati betergelo kudem eta moszehkimalai, uhosh paim beom aslokoze, mashani mamlita zelakakat bisofkoyom.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Pam bisofkolyom.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Pamhat bisofkolyom, awelkoyom kya nakutskim ta repetitive kutzhim, sheikan etat madazot lakat shlosha eruim, shikolunu bimala khayom ve notaushamregeshi u loma suga sababa.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Ani ken samedagesh al lo eruim traumatim, loka elishem phobia, item shambhisteria, lo.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Mashia naknulim la khil.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Anakukan, bemulihko mze sandbox, betirgul, baktena, seda?

SPEAKER_01 31:08

Have the sandbox.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

K Yeshligam munhima itek, madam khadeshim as wamali sandbox, anime azukhahat, ve az kaze. Sedar, low.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Boy neg kolakavodla iteks, sandbox, zergaz hol, zil sakekbess labetu ka zekol.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Avalkaha, msa kimba itek'ani rashekaf sham Gamanachnu sikha knuba sandbox. Badu, as a kefani bosit kazot mefanek. As anachnu besof kolyom, noh, lokhrim shlusha ruim shagul no los sababa memala khayom, lokritim kitsunim traumatim, shlusha ruim los sababa. Sedam?

SPEAKER_00 31:47

Ken.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Ve osimalem tatirigulaza Maya ketzef shelisham, le shanototo, myom shavochelisham, le shanototam kolyom. Divdok ezashinui zasa gami mashinui huhel ki pokot koisavaladinko, asatha pohot, yofi. Gazinakha befne kudachha mishhahu za shinui? P'sata Magniv Lagamu great success.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Lettergale, and uh, Ken feedback him feedback him feedback him.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Anahu to him the short him li too. Ken, as the the method goat vot and spear vulve yell as the time shelba?

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Sababa gamriba mad shela sababa. Bye bye bye.